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You might need to rethink some of your practice today

Posted By Katebg

"You might need to rethink some of your practice today"

About: Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust / Adult mental health (inpatient)

(as other),

Whilst I was at Sherwood Oaks there were doors slamming constantly, alarms repeatedly going off behind reception, where the staff are too busy talking about personal topics to mind. But the icing on the cake for me was listening to a staff member (30 minutes after a fire alarm test),  explaining to a another staff member how in the case of a fire, people on the wards and upstairs can't get out without keys and they don't usually take keys upstairs. The other staff member confirmed it had been like that for a while

You might need (in a legally required way) to rethink some of your practice today. 

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Response from Amy Palmer, Involvement, Experience and Volunteering Lead, Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust 7 months ago
Amy Palmer
Involvement, Experience and Volunteering Lead,
Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust

My role is to encourage and help staff to capture, respond and act upon feedback, to work together with patients and carers to improve services and to raise awareness of volunteering and its benefits within the trust.

Submitted on 18/09/2023 at 11:59
Published on Care Opinion at 11:59

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Hi Katebg,

My name is Amy and part of my role here at Notts HC is to oversee the feedback that comes in on Care Opinion and to try and ensure a response is received to every story shared with us by the service which it is about. I just wanted to let you know that whilst you haven't received this response yet, I am currently, and will continue, to follow this up so that you receive a response as soon as possible. Please accept my apologies for this and thank you for taking the time to share this with us.

Kind regards,

Amy.

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Response from Kirsty Aveyard, Ward Manager, Orchid Ward, Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust 7 months ago
Kirsty Aveyard
Ward Manager, Orchid Ward,
Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust

Submitted on 18/09/2023 at 12:38
Published on Care Opinion at 12:38

Dear Katebg

thankyou for taking the time to post about your experiences

we do appreciate how noisy acute wards can be at times and will ensure this is discussed in community meetings regarding doors etc

I am concerned regarding the fire comments you overheard and would like to understand this more, my details are below if you would like to make contact

I would like to reassure you all staff are fire trained and everyone has access to security keys/fobs and alarms wherever they work in the building

many thanks

Kirsty Aveyard- interim service manager

kirsty.aveyard@nottshc.nhs.uk

0115659541

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Response from Jo Hill, Interim Deputy General Manager, AMH General Management, Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust 7 months ago
Jo Hill
Interim Deputy General Manager, AMH General Management,
Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust

Submitted on 18/09/2023 at 12:41
Published on Care Opinion at 12:41

Hi Katebg,

Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding to you.

I am very concerned to read these issues and will liaise with the relevant teams to work through them.

All keys do have fire keys attached to them so I will need to check that people are able to access the keys effectively.

Thank you for raising your concerns with us please be assured that this will be looked into.

I would be happy to meet with you if you wish to discuss this further my email is joanna.hill@nottshc.nhs.uk.

Many thanks

Jo

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Update posted by Katebg (other)

Amy. Thank-you, I can appreciate that it takes time to get a response, grateful for your support in getting my issues raised.

Kirsty! You can assure me all you like. I clearly heard staff admitting they don't always take keys to the ward. So having access to keys isn't an issue, having vulnerable people locked in a ward while the fire alarm is sounding, or the buildings burning down, that's my concern. How often do your staff leave vulnerable people at risk? And I'm sorry but either you misunderstood, or misread. I was sat in the reception area. With the slamming doors, and crash door alarm, watching people struggled to communicate with the reception staff. Honestly if you can appreciate how noisy an acute ward can be, I'm sure you can comprehend that a reception area in a building that serves people with mental health issues ought to be receptive of them. A community meeting won't fix the slamming door.

Thanks Jo. It's great that you'll be checking up on the key issue, I'm sure it's as simple as reminding staff if they don't have keys, they're making bad choices for other people.

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