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"Out of hours call"

About: Forth Valley Royal Hospital / GP Out of Hours NHS 24 / NHS 24 (111 service)

(as a service user),

I called 111 with an array of symptoms that I have been struggling to keep at bay for the last nearly 3 days, my doctors surgery is understaffed and can’t see me for a few days so suggested I phone the 111 service for further advice and to hopefully be seen by a clinician. I can’t fault the call handler at 111, in my opinion they had more care, compassion and patience in them - for someone who is really just reading off of a script, than the nurse from the out of hours clinic at NHS Forth Valley, right from when they called me, I felt they had a bad attitude and was very patronising towards me. Asked me to send a photo of my throat so they could assess if I needed to come in or if they could treat me over the phone, so I did just that - bearing in mind I had other symptoms such as bad earache, swollen glands in neck, heart palpitations, burning pain in my chest when coughing and breathing, etc.

They then called me back to bluntly tell me there’s no need for antibiotics and it’s just viral based on that one picture of my throat , not taking into account any of my other symptoms and making me feel like I was overreacting and actually quite silly. Which upset me. I challenged them and asked well what about my other symptoms and tried to get out about my chest, but I was a bit taken a back and upset that I felt like I struggled to get more out, I didn’t feel like this nurse had any compassion or an approachable nature. They patronised me again with it’s probably just a cold or flu - which at this point I was frustrated I admit and I told them I’d take their word for it, because at this point I felt my call for help was being ignored, after I challenged them about my other symptoms they did offer me to come in and they could listen to my chest, but again this was with a condescending tone and I told them there was no point. How staff who are supposed to have care and compassion for people can make someone feel so low and stupid is beyond me. I understand that they are underworked and stretched constantly but it is not their patients fault and some of the staff clearly just let others down.

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Response from NHS Forth Valley 16 months ago
Submitted on 22/12/2022 at 12:39
Published on Care Opinion at 12:39


"Dear Just another patient 111,

I would like to express my disappointment in the service you received when contacting our Out of Hours team. We recognise that all services are stretched beyond capacity. Without further details we are unable to investigate fully but would be able to do so if you would find this of benefit. We regularly meet with our clinicians and try to improve our capacity and reduce stress on our clinicians and supporting staff. We hope that your symptoms have improved now and wish you well for the future.

Take care.

Dr Karyn Webster

OOH Clinical Lead

NHS Forth Valley

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Response from Andrew Cassidy, Patient Experience Officer, Nursing & Care, NHS 24 16 months ago
Andrew Cassidy
Patient Experience Officer, Nursing & Care,
NHS 24

I manage Patient and Service User Feedback

Submitted on 22/12/2022 at 15:04
Published on Care Opinion at 15:04


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Dear Just Another Patient 111,

Thank you for sharing your story on Care Opinion. I was sorry to read that you had been unwell, and hope you are now feeling much better.

I was pleased to read that you experienced care, compassion, and patience during your call to 111. I appreciate that this would have been a worrying time for you, and I was pleased to read that your call was managed well.

I hope that you are beginning to feel better and that you are back on your feet soon.

Thank you once again for sharing your story on Care Opinion.

Best wishes,

Andrew

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